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        <description>A clip from David Fleming's final interview — with Henrik Dahle (Fleming's research assistant Beth Barton also in attendance) — recorded less than a month before Fleming’s unexpected death. If you would like to hear this clip in context, it begins at 12:50 in the full interview: https://peertube-ecogather-u20874.vm.elestio.app/w/fVtXTNm7N8uYmvHG4mNbsq Note that Fleming concludes this 4-minute clip with some reasons why postponing collapse might be a bad thing.  At 32:15 in the full interview he holds that perspective in balance with positive elements to delaying the inevitable collapse, partly informed by the Transition Towns movement.</description>
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